In fact, it's impossible to build NVIDIA. You can build NVIDIA. You just can't. But nobody can convince me otherwise, because I didn't know any better. Who's the smartest person you've ever met? Who's the smartest person I've ever met? I can't answer that question. And I know what people are thinking. The definition of smart is somebody who's intelligent, solve problems, technical. But I find that that's a commodity. And we're about to prove that artificial intelligence is able to handle that part easiest. Right. Yeah. And so, as it turns out, let me give you another example. Everybody thought software programming is the ultimate smart profession. Look what is the first thing that AI is solving. Software programming. And so, it turns out that the definition of smart is very different than most people think. And I think long-term, the definition of smart, and my personal definition of smart, is someone who sits at that intersection of being technically astute, but human empathy and having the ability to infer the unspoken, around the corners, around the corners, the unknowables. You know, people who are able to see around corners are truly, truly smart. And their value is incredible. To be able to preempt problems before they show up, just because you feel the vibe. And the vibe came from a combination of data, analysis, first principle, life experience, wisdom, sensing other people. That vibe, that, I think, that's smart. That, I think, is going to be the future definition of smart. And that person might actually score horribly on the SAT. Right. And so, anyhow. Okay. Okay. What's a misconception people have about you? These are hard questions. First of all, I don't know what they're, what's their, give me an example of a conception they have of me. That you love to be in the public eye, that you're a great, you know, you're a great speaker, so you love to give speeches. And you already said that that's not true. Yeah, that is not true. Right. That is, in fact, exactly the opposite of what I love. Public speaking scares the living daylights out of me. And it scares me not at the moment. It's, right now, I am, I am in deep anxiety over GTC, Washington, D.C. Yeah, coming up. It's two weeks away, less than two weeks away. And I am deeply anxious. I've been deeply anxious for a week, excuse me, a month. And so, so these things, these things wear on me. They're always in my mind. And, and, and, uh, they stress me out. Um, so I, I, I don't know how to explain it. Okay. Yep. If you were companies, meetings, scare me to death. Yes. Scare me to death because I'm, I'm, you know, I'm on stage and they're the most important people in the world to me. It is the single most important speech that I give in a lot of ways, but it's impossible to prepare for it and, and, um, and everything I can tell them on a presentation I've already said on some video somewhere, they ought to just go watch that. And so I hate, I hate to regurgitate, you know, talks to them, uh, because they, you would never do that to your family. You wouldn't, you would never come home and, and give your GTC talk, you know, to your family. And, and I hate doing that. And so it has to be genuine, has to be unique. It has to be useful, has to be meaningful to them, has to make a difference. I'm still leading the company. There's still an outcome that I'm looking for. And so you've got to do all of that and you've got to do it fresh. That is, and, and so I have no idea how it's going to turn out until it turns out. And so the entire time, you know, during earnings week, people think that the earnings is stressful to me, not even a little bit. Okay. The company meeting stresses me out. So, so the conception is exactly wrong. Right. Right. Yeah. That's good. Okay. What is your favorite vacation spot? Uh, wherever my family is and wherever we're cooking, having cocktail. Okay. And, and, uh, but if I had to name two places and one place or two, it's hard for me. Um, but I can tell it's my favorite vacation spot because I know I'm happy landing. I'm always happy landing in, in Hawaii. Okay. And because we're all, we're, we're typically together. Um, I'm, I'm really happy when I, when we land in Taiwan. Um, and, and the reason for that is because the people are great. Um, uh, I've got really important partners there and long-term friendships there. and my family's oftentimes with me. Um, um, I'm, I'm genuinely happy when I land in Japan. Okay. And, and the reason for that is because, um, I've very, very long memories of Japan and how important it was to saving our company and, and, uh, the early business trips that I've, I've been there. Uh, even though business-wise, largely unproductive over the years, I still, I still, um, and somehow have, have great joy landing there. And so maybe those are kind of three places. And, and, and my family's, my family's oftentimes with me when I'm landing. Okay. That's good. Yeah. Pet peeve. People who don't listen to my question, understand my question, answer my question during important times. Okay. When we're dealing with very hard situation, very difficult times, and we need, we need facts, we need facts. And I ask a question like that, if somebody doesn't answer it, it triggers me almost instantaneously. Okay. And, and the reason for that is because I don't understand why the person underappreciates the context of this meeting, that we're doing something really important and that we're trying to get to the truth and we're trying to get that we need to get there fast. And if somebody wants to trigger me, that's the way to do it. That's the way to do it. Yeah. We have a trick to making Jensen mad. Okay. One last question that someone asked me recently, and I love this question. It's if you, if you had to be 20 years old all over again, would you do it today or would you relive in our day? I would relive it in our day. And the reason for the, for that is because I thought that our twenties, um, was happier than these twenties. And, and, um, I think every, I think everyone deserves some time, uh, to be oblivious and not to have, not to wear all of the world's problems on their shoulder on day one. I just don't think it's necessary. Nobody can convince me of it. Otherwise that, that, that there's some, there's some joy in ignorance and there's, there's a superpower in ignorance. NVIDIA, it would not be power, would not be, would not be power. It would not be possible today. If not for the fact that I was ignorant to the fact that it's impossible to build NVIDIA. Right. Right. In fact, it's impossible to build NVIDIA. You can't build NVIDIA. You just can't. But nobody can convince me otherwise because I didn't know any better. And I think that optimistic people, you can't convince them that they can't make it better. They're so ignorant. They're so oblivious to the truth that they are optimistic. How is that a bad thing? And I feel that we're, we're, we're raising generation of, of very cynical, too informed. They're cynical, not because they're, they're, they're inherently cynical. They're cynical because they just see so much stuff. Right. It's too much stuff. There's time for that. You know, we gotta, we have to build up some internal reserve of optimism. We have to build up some internal reserve of goodness that you see only the good. You have to find a way to, to, to build up that, that muscle. Yeah. We, we had the opportunity to do that way more than people do today. Yeah. And we did that in our twenties. Yeah. When we're optimistic, we're superhuman and, and everything was possible, you know? And so that, I would choose my early twenties. Okay. Good note to end on. Ignorance is bliss. Ignorance is bliss. Yeah. And ignorance is a superpower and anybody who, who, who tackles a new adventure, if not for ignorance, they, they would, they would think it's too hard to even engage it. And, uh, I'm, I'm, I'm really, really quite fortunate to have been so informed. I've been, I was informed and, and, and hardworking, um, that, you know, I, I had some capabilities, but, but the ignorance was, was, um, helpful to me. And I approached everything with this attitude. How hard can it be? Now it turns out it's really hard. You have no idea, right? Look at what you built. And if you would have known everything then that, you know, now and all the feelings and all the setbacks and all the disappointments, and you bottle all of that up, you put it all in one place, you would never do it, you know? And, and I would never do it. And, and, and so I think the, the ignorance was a superpower. And, and then the other, the other thing that's a superpower is having, you know, having no end game, NVIDIA has no end game. People ask me, Jensen, what's your plan? We don't have one. Staying in business is our plan. You know, we, we, we have, we have future dreams of the world and we imagine how technology would be different, but staying in business is a hundred percent the plan. And, and, and somebody asked me once, and I get asked all the time, I guess, Jensen, what are your, what are your, what are your goals, life goals? I don't have any, you know, just working, staying employed, being able to do good work, surrounded by amazing people. That's, that's the goal. And, and so in a lot of ways, you know, having no end game is, is a really, has been really helpful to NVIDIA. Okay. Yeah. So anyways, that's my end game point for the end of the show. I love it. Thanks for being my first guest. This was super fun. Thank you. This was terrific. Great to see you. Good to hang out with you. Yeah, you too.